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Bill Gates reveals one skill Steve Jobs had that made him ‘jealous’

Microsoft's Bill Gates and Apple's Steve Jobs. Images: Getty
Bill Gates has described Steve Jobs as a "wizard". Images: Getty

Microsoft co-founder and one of the world’s richest men, Bill Gates, has revealed he was jealous of Apple co-founder and rival Steve Jobs.

But he wasn’t jealous of Jobs’ success with Apple, he was envious of the late Jobs’ charisma.

Speaking on the Armchair Expert podcast, hosted by actor Dax Shephard, Gates said that Jobs was “such a wizard at over-motivating people”.

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“I was a minor wizard so I couldn’t fall under his spells - but I could see him casting the spells, and then I would look at people and see them mesmerized,” Gates said.

“I was so jealous.”

He said Jobs was a genius leader, expressing wonder at Jobs’ return to Apple in 1997 after being ousted from the top job in 1985. Jobs went on to turn the tech company around, launching the iPhone, iPod and iMac.

“No one else can do what he did there. I couldn’t have done that [and] I don’t know anyone who could have,” Gates said, describing Jobs’ return as “truly phenomenal”.

Gates has praised Jobs’ charisma and presentation skills on several occasions, last year describing the Apple co-founder as “more of a natural” at public speaking, in an interview with the Wall Street Journal.

“I wish I could be as magical because I have causes that are in some ways more impactful and I need to make sure they don’t get ignored,” Gates said.

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation works to address poverty and disease prevention. Gates has long warned of the potentially devastating risks associated with a global pandemic, but has in 2020 been at the center of several conspiracy theories relating to Covid-19.

Gates has also been vocal about the major risk posed by climate change. Earlier this month he warned climate change will cause economic damage in line with a Covid-19 pandemic every decade, along with the devastating death toll.

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